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In one paragraph below you state "... they close there ears" yet in the subsequent paragraph you state "... you can open the right ear and hear the sound ring fully only on the right side only" so it's not clear if the technique involves sealing both ears or just the left ear.

Also opening the ear makes it *harder* to hear inner sound...

And is it correct to open the _left_ nostril but the _right_ ear?

Is there a video of this technique?

And while breathing through the left nostril was easy yesterday, right now I found it quite clogged. I blew out a good deal of mucus, but that nostril is still a bit harder to breathe through. I've heard that the nostrils alternate every 2 hours. Is it possible/advisable to force breathing out of a particular nostril? If so, how?

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Rah

Blessed be peace be with you and always with you. Blessed be the inner coil
that circulates upward and downward and circulated inward and outward. To Rah
Yah Wah Mi E Lohim Adonay Anami Radha Swami Namahatama Sarosha Word Logos
Shabd En soph Kalma, The Audible life Stream the Alpha and Omega the ruler of
all that exist in all forms and beings the Universe the Eternal Abode the
Ringing Radiance the Psalm of the Holy Song the Swing of the Great Pendulum the
Great Bell the Conch the Thundering Clouds and the Million lions that Roar the
sound of the Scotch Bagpipe Kristnas flute the sound of the Hindu Vina Guitar
and Holy Lute the sound of the Angels Harps and the great Horns of the Tibetan
Lamas. The Ira Sushana and Pingala the Sun and Moons Ha and Tha the flow and
Orbs of the Rabbi and Sufi and there love of Abraham who pierced the star sun
and moon to achieve union the twelve chakra and there multi tonal current flows
the refection of what is above and below the unity of The One, The All, the mind
of God, and the Great Flame of our soul The candle light of Jot Niranjan the
immaculate light to the Great Sun of Gods Soul The Egyptian Ra, the Moon Atma
and Sun of Sach Kand Paratma , The Ocean of Radha Swami or Namahatma the Ocean
of Existence Anami. To the Sufi who hears and does the practice of Sultan ul
Azkar Surat Shabd and the Rabbi who worships the En Sof the Yogi who is absorbed
in Om and the Vedic who is lost in nam The Christan who seeks the lost word
Blessed be peace be with you and always with you.

The current of the nadis are afixed and circulate from the central core of our
being in the ira pingala and sushana nadi. The current of the left side and
the current on the right side and the current that is central forms our mortal
coil of existence here in this plane of existence. The mortal coil and the coil
of the soul and mind knotted together. The current of Yin and Yang. That
coils like the letter S and intertwines like a helix that extend from the top of
our head to the our toes.

The minds functions in five elementst of earth water fire air ether and the
twenty five prakriti or states of mind in a house of 10 doorways the two eyes
the two nostrils of the nose, the mouth and the two opening at the organ of
reproduction and and the Tenth door opening located behind our closed eye lids
and is the called the third eye or the til or tirsa til shiv netra or the
singled eye.

The soul has two facuties one it to think the other is to see. We can move in
spirit by means of our soul its essence is known by the power of the sounds it
generates within us as the audible life stream the divine essence and this power
resonates within. We can move with out hands or feet or body like a floating
head that see from above.

The religions of the world all teach the same basic thing including the pagans
the repetition of spoken words that can also lead to the unspoken word,
contemplation of form and the internal seeing of form and the ability to
transport the soul up and down the tree of life via the coil of the two serpents
of the sun and moon breath on stem of the tree.

With in the human being there are ten sounds that are heard in the upper part of
the head from the eye center upward and there are colors and orbs of light and
the swirls of all math and geometry and the forms of stars suns moons and light
that the mind and soul have there play within this temple that we live in. /all
light is encased in a clear cover that resembles a glass of or clear crystal
cover that from within shines a nebula of gas light life a fire fly that shines
it light in its body.

From the old testament and Abraham who was able to penetrate the star sun and
moon within and reach the divine sound current of the one lord to the Sufis who
try to also see that star and sun and moon as Mohamed did, to the Rabbis star of
David the Christan light where Jesus is awaiting the to heavenly regions of the
Angles and the under worlds of the all the demons and there legions of smoke and
fire of pain and suffering, the teaching are all the same and are seen the same
in each no matter who we are. We are all struggling souls. And our models
metaphors and paraphrases of the objective to describe the subjective that has
divided us and made us bigots and hypocrites.

In the Sufi method of meditation on the sun and moon the head is bowed a little
forward and turned toward the left side that opens the left nadi or breath as
the yogi does in pranayama and as they close there ears in the practice of surat
shabd or Sultan ul Azkar and hear the sound of the shabd while doing internal
budjan, of the Vedic nadi or akash bani, we hear the inner music and open the
left nadi of the moon current the yin current the cooling moon current to enter
the inner abode that is the Rising current from below as The sun current is the
decending current from above the sender and receiver.
Sitting in padamasan or the tayor pose with the thumbs in the ears and the left
breath opened we hear the sound of the crickets chirping and then up and above
the sound of the bell and conch. By repetition of some holy word you like we
ascend on this current of the moon and enter the inner higher regions within us
and see all that is there.

The sufi method of opening the left breath by looking down at the heart on the
left side puts your head to lean more to the right thumb, and you can open the
right ear and hear the sound ring fully only on the right side only ensuring
your on the rising current. As you remain still you will start to go numb and
your legs will start to go numb with your seat seat a little higher above the
legs they go to sleep very easy with no pain, theygo to sleep peacefully while
the hands and arms slowly go numb and cold when this numbness starts we have to
relax completely for this numbness will cause you to tense up and as time goes
by the hands and lower extremities will start to ache this is removed by
relaxing that area and making sure your breath is on the left side the look to
see that the moon breath is still flowing and open.

As we concentrate in the darkness we will see a star in the darkness that will
sit high to the left and start to come down toward the right and then pass by to
the left as it follows down this S shaped current as it flows down into the
lower body. While sitting still and withdrawing this star changes to a
bright sun and sun will just pass by as we continue to concentrate to the right
we will see a white moon as it gets closer on the right in the right upward
current , we penetrate it and enter the region of white clear light. In this we
see radiant beings and forms of all the divines in this stage we see the moon
the white mansions the palaces of the divine and there company with love and
devotion we look up to the great opening the vortex and nebula of the great gate
of the bank nal and enter to rise up to the regions of the one being within . In
all stages these lights are to be ignored and looked at with dispassion.

This is the way to Daswandar or Parbrahm and from here we enter the central
canal or sushana and we again see the great opening of the maha suun the great
void were we have to catch hold of the sound of the bagpipe the great horns and
the instrument of the Vina that will lead us to the region of, the all, the one,
the ocean, the true being, the original soul,of the unutterable being.

There there is no religion no one who can interfere with you and it is the same
road all will have to travel from this region of ignorance of unknowing and
confusion and the immense conundrum of the bad interpretations to our mind
reaching its home and our soul returning to its home.

Only as a human being can we know our path ahead. From the spoken word of
every letter or our alphabet and the number of words for each letter to teach us
how to return home with full understanding so the fear and terror and insane
misunderstanding and wrong teaching ways that only confuse and cause strife can
be removed and all can be one as the one. Each told the truth and each one can
know that truth.

This is the path that is the one path, the road to get there is the same, no
matter what bigotry you flavor. The truth will set all free.

Blessed be peace be with you and always with you.

Rah

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(Notes by Terrence Brannon)

not altered or new. higher durable real.

Consciousness GENERALLY means aware of something [0:52]

Consciousness, to a Perfect Living Master, is all possible potential
awareness in past, present, future or any other dimension. Awareness
is only what is immediately available

Does higher consciousness includes dreamlike states?

Bringing things into awareness is EXPANSION OF AWARENESS and is NOT
higher consciousness.

Odd dreams, strange recollections, meeting people, devotional feelings are
EXPANDED awareness, NOT higher consciousness.

Higher consciousness is similar to waking up from a dream - you wake
up and the whole dream thing becomes unreal.

Patanjali's sutras describes "ascent" through chakras. He really is
discussing what happens when attention is placed at various energy
centers in the physical level of consciousness. You can go into
certain states this way and then return to the physical to discuss
them. Those experiences are merely part of physical because you can
relate to them in the physical --- THE PHYSICAL IS STILL REAL.

Yogic practice of 6 chakras is emotional and energetic. No experience
of love, universal mind, source of thoughts, akashic records, origin
or life and birth cycles, cosmic consciousness. Instead of just energy
and emotional states in the 6 chakras below the eyes.

Message of masters: Real higher awareness starts above eyes. This
state should be WAKEFUL such that physical reality seems like a
dream. Physical reality would immediately seem less real if you could
see your dreams and the production of them simultaneously. But because
you have dreams with part of TOTAL CONSCIOUSNESS blocked out, they
appear quite real.

Each partial state occurs to release the pressure of the previous
state.

Why cant you just cut off consciousness to get refreshed? Why dreams?
Consciousness is a continuous reality. It cannot be cutoff. It is not
possible to be totally unconsciousness. Consciousness is immortal and
cannot change. Cutting off consciousness just means redirecting it to
something else to perceive not cutting it off - that isnt possible.

Just as it is possible to wake up from a dream, you can wake up from
the physical state. The Perfect Living Master is there to nudge you
when you fall asleep because he is more awake.

Physical waking is consistent. Dream like state less so. Connections
between events and recall in physical waking are even more acute above
physical. Above you can sustain experience without a body (physical or
dream) - just senses (astral). Even higher you can go purely mental -
origin of concepts, shapes, life patterns etc.

Highest levels: real self is none of the forms adopted. [28:17]
Consciousness can exist by itself. This is the starting point for all
other states. Ultimate refreshment.

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I have one other question. Does one actually become able to see other groups meditating and where they end up?

In other words, when I spoke of Dzogchen and The Void, that is based on books I have read.

When I speak about Nirvikalpa Samadhi and Zen Buddhism, that is also book learning.

When I speak about Advaita Vedanta, more textbook learning.

And I have some text book understanding of Sant Mat.

But is there someway to actually directly know that a Zen Buddhist is only getting so far? Because right now, all I'm doing is playing "label war", which is a mind game.

On 4/20/2011 10:29 AM, michael112658 wrote:

 

The resolution is simple.

You keep your attention harmonized with Naam and esperience It taking you beyond the Void (aka Maha Sunna) and into Sach Khand.

Peace,

Michael

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> I've been to Tibetan Buddhist/Dzogchen chanting where they clearly state
> that The Void is the womb from which all sound and light emanate.
>
> They would consider someone listening to "inner" sound as being less
> realized than someone who has merged into the Void.
>
> Of course, the Sant Mat crowd would say: "they are stuck in the dark
> realm between the psychic realms and the true god worlds"
>
> So we have a Catch-22 of epic proportions. And you only have time enough
> to use the body to realize one or the other.
>
> How do we resolve this dilemma?
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They would consider someone listening to "inner" sound as being less realized than someone who has merged into the Void.

Of course, the Sant Mat crowd would say: "they are stuck in the dark realm between the psychic realms and the true god worlds"

So we have a Catch-22 of epic proportions. And you only have time enough to use the body to realize one or the other.

How do we resolve this dilemma?

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Kirpal Singh pays great respect to Advaita Vedanta, but I cant tell whether he considers Advaita Vedanta as equivalent to self-realized or god-realized.

I do know that most Advaita Vedanta masters would say: "who is that hearing an inner sound? find out who that is and be happy?" --- in other words the heavyweights of Advaita Vedanta, both past and present, dont make any mention of a Sound Current as being synonomous with God or the highest state of realization.

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Is Sach Kand such a place? Is there the possibility to talk to others
and meet others? Or is it personal, subject, private and alone?

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At 6:45 in this satsang -

the Q/A begins.

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It turns out that the best introduction to Sant Mat for one person may be the worst introduction for another. I tend to like crisp, clinical analytical texts, which is I why I was so enamoured of the Holtje book.

But maybe one piece of poetry by Darshan Singh would be the best introduction for someone else.

It seems that I think that what is right for me is what everyone should be enjoying. Sigh.

On 4/4/2011 1:05 AM, llm@atlasok.com wrote:

 

> I'd like to know what everyone considers their #1 best introduction to
> Sant Mat - besides initiation
>

First I would have to say were the Satsangs and issues of Sonic Spectrum
by Michael Turner found in the archives and files of this group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SFS/files/ (Includes a text file with a
partial list of message #'s of Sonic Spectrums in the archive One will
probably have to sign in to Yahoo Groups to get to the files and message
archive.

I would add the writings of Kirpal Singh (many available for free online
at http://www.ruhanisatsangusa.org/books.htm

I also found Path of the Masters by Juian Johnson enlightening. Not so
much for descriptions of the experience as for the insight into Sant Mat
in India at the time it was written. It used to be hard to find but is now
available on line in many formats (even for Kindle <G>)

Laura

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