Shygost plays versus:
- 13k – shimari face, 3-4 corner joseki
- 10k – pinch too loose, attachment joseki
- 5k
- 2k
- 1d
The topic for discussion is this position right here – http://eidogo.com/#AQPfGG8:0,16
Position 2 is where Yang Yilun would say to play based on his opening principles – it is the first third class move and no first or second class moves are available.
Position 1 is where Shygost would say to play based on his opening principles – it is an approach to that corner. To be fair, the very first thing in Shygost’s list is “issues” – and the left side has issues – open skirts, unsettled groups. But in the opening, you are trying to rapidly sketech out territory and cant afford a gote fix.
Let’s look at the approach:
Now, if you approach the corner and White plays passively, then the common joseki leads to you eventually playing at Position 2 (where Yang Yilun would have you start) – http://eidogo.com/#AQPfGG8:0,0,0,3
But the thing is, a serious White is going to pinch and a position like this might result: http://eidogo.com/#AQPfGG8:0,0,1,1,1
and that is frustrating for Black because he got no corner territory and no side territory.
Now for Yang’s play at the midpoint
From what I can see, no good comes to Black for such a passive move: http://eidogo.com/#h6fDvz:0,1,1
I learned something from my teacher (Shygost) today:
The heart of Go is getting moves for free by forcing your opponent to respond to weaknesses.
The way to find this heart is to look at all the weaknesses on the board and fix yours while threatening his!
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