Mon
8
Feb '10
Mon
8
Feb '10
- Scalar::Defer – search.cpan.org.
- http://search.cpan.org/dist/Data-Thunk/lib/Data/Thunk.pm
Sun
7
Feb '10
I like your idea of putting on the blinders, rolling up your sleeves and getting some progress done.
There are countless internal and external forces that work to prevent your growth, so your approach certainly has its merits.
However, many people in self-destructive cults are 100% confident that their system works. I suppose each person has to be happy with what works for them (their next comfortable step) instead of getting the whole picture.
Personally, ill-gotten gains do not sit well with me. If I need advice or materials from someone, I dont want them obtained through unethical channels.
In the case of Paul Twitchell, the physical plane story of him smacks of plagiarism and outright lies. Followed by an attempt to bite the hand that originally fed him – Kirpal Singh.
But that is a physical plane story. The real Paul Twitchell and what happened in other more senior space-time planes could be quite different.
And that’s where minorwork’s commentary on physical plane institutions (positive + negative) versus pure spiritual plane institutions (purely positive) comes into play. The question marks that you read about Paul Twitchell have to do with the positive/negative physical entity in service of a purely positive spiritual entity. If he had to lie and plagiarize and charge money to reach out to a certain sector on the physical plane, then so be it.
Ron Loving wrote:
> > > Michael and all, My view re Mr. Twitchell (or any other teacher) is > simply “Does it work?”. > I have known a controversial person or two and usually I found that this > or that opinion fell by the wayside when I applied the training to my > life. I have an old friend who is with ECK and has been some 25 years. > He has had very observable gains over the years. I tried it and had > wins at it. I’m Sufi so didn’t stay with it but thats not due to > opinions about him.
> Light,
> RL
> > > Michael and all, My view re Mr. Twitchell (or any other teacher) is > simply “Does it work?”. > I have known a controversial person or two and usually I found that this > or that opinion fell by the wayside when I applied the training to my > life. I have an old friend who is with ECK and has been some 25 years. > He has had very observable gains over the years. I tried it and had > wins at it. I’m Sufi so didn’t stay with it but thats not due to > opinions about him.
> Light,
> RL
Sun
7
Feb '10
Sadhu Ram is in Acton, Massachusetts if you wish to see him. He arrives tonight.
He will be in Miami, FL in a week or so.
http://sadhuramji.wordpress.com/
Or, if you can’t make it, the sessions will be streamed live:
www.mediaseva.com
or directly, via: www.livestream.com/santmat Sant Sahdu Ram trained under Sant Ajaib Singh. And Ajaib Singh trained under Sant Kirpal Singh.
or directly, via: www.livestream.com/santmat Sant Sahdu Ram trained under Sant Ajaib Singh. And Ajaib Singh trained under Sant Kirpal Singh.
Sat
6
Feb '10
I’d like to read it. However, after awhile you start to realize that anything you “know” is simply an affirmation of what you choose to have faith in (for whatever reasons that may be).
michael112658 wrote:
> > > I did a biographical sketch of Paul Twitchell some years ago which deals > with some of these issues. Perhaps I should post it in order to provide > some clarity.
> > Yours in Naam,
> > Michael Turner
> > > I did a biographical sketch of Paul Twitchell some years ago which deals > with some of these issues. Perhaps I should post it in order to provide > some clarity.
> > Yours in Naam,
> > Michael Turner
Wed
3
Feb '10
Heheh,
I had a 3-step process:
1) I read Michael’s post on Consciousness 5. I began to regret seeking knowledge and power when I really should increase my ability to love
2) I began to focus on the anahata naad, and then began to radiate loving-kindness from the heart. I began to wonder about these two different energies.
All of a sudden Supreme Master Ching Hai was emanating something towards me. I found that rather odd as I had no recent visits to her website for study/contemplation.
3)Later last night, I had a dream where someone invited me to climb up a ladder to talk with him. When I got up to the top, people were staring forward at a stage. One face I swore I had seen before.
That’s when someone asked me the same thing Michael asked me a few days ago here: “what exactly is it that you are looking for?” And of course, the only answer I have is: “hell if I know”
Then he began talking about how he was a Jew born in a country whose tail spilled into the mouth of India. He looked just like G.I. Gurdjieff.
> > > I logged on here today, with my questions prepared. Then I read your > recent posts, Michael – ABC, Consciousness 5. These have quieted me, or > fed me, or maybe just closed my mouth for a bit. They are discussing > some of the very things I am wanting to understand.
> > It always amazes me, this process. It’s like Joseph Campbell says; there > seems to be giant Hands, gently guiding us along.
> > Thank you, moby
> > It always amazes me, this process. It’s like Joseph Campbell says; there > seems to be giant Hands, gently guiding us along.
> > Thank you, moby
Tue
2
Feb '10
CONSCIOUSNESS FIVE:
SPIRITUAL INTEGRATION AND EXPRESSION
© February 1994, 2010, by Michael Turner One of the things I have noticed in my search for spiritual freedom is
how often introspection is favored over expression. Many teachers of
spiritual unfoldment seem to stress place their primary attention upon
focusing within, rather than without. This is a traditional perspective,
at times stemming from the preconception that the outer world of the
senses is negative, and that it is only within that one will truly
experience the Kingdom of Heaven. What this perspective does not take into account, however, is that the
physical universe is no further from the Heart of God than any other
dimension. For the One Source of All That Is is beyond space, time and
duality “pervading all, without fear, without enmity” is how Guru
Nanak put it. The Supreme One, the Ocean of Love and Mercy, is
everywhere, here and now. We do not have to flee this universe to get
home there is nowhere to leave, and nowhere to go we are already
there. Fully realizing this is what Paul Twitchell referred to as
“Consciousness Five”. It is not even a question the Kingdom of Heaven being “within” or
“without.” It Just Is! As Soul a golden, self-aware particle of that
great conscious love we call “God” we are already spiritually free. We
are already forgiven. We just have to recognize this, accept it, and act
upon it. God does not want us to be a world of self-absorbed mystics any
more than It wants us to be a society of blind hedonists. It simply
wishes us to be active instruments for Its expression through the
LightSong of the Word the Divine Spiritual Current the Shabd. As stated above, many people on the spiritual quest both students and
teachers seem to feel that the attractions of the physical universe
are to be avoided if one wishes to achieve spiritual freedom. Indeed,
the whole language of spirituality and mysticism is replete with
invocations to abandon the flesh and its pleasures in pursuit of higher
consciousness. We have been told by some that this universe is the
“ashcan” of heaven and that, in order to travel in soul, we must leave
our bodies behind. This has led to a common myth that self-realization
is attained at the expense of the physical, astral, causal and mental
bodies. To me, the goal of spiritual unfoldment is not so much “transcendence”
or abandonment of the “lower” selves, as it is integration of the
various aspects of the self into alignment with the soul, and then
together serving as a harmonious instrument of Divine expression. A good analogy is that of a guitar. The physical, astral (emotional),
causal (memory/habitual), mental, etheric (subconscious/intuitive) and
soul bodies can each be compared to one of the guitar’s strings.
Individually, they each have their own resonant frequency. But no one
string is better than another. The fact that the high E string (i.e.
Soul) is two octaves above the bottom E (physical body) does not make it
intrinsically superior. And while one may appreciate the beauty of the
individual notes, it is a whole other experience entirely when they are
played together, harmoniously, as a chord. This, to me, is the essence of self-realization: using the Shabda as a
spiritual tuning fork to bring all of the bodies (or aspects of the
Self) into a harmonious tuning with the soul and each other. Once they
are in tune, they can then be played by the hand of God through the
LightSong of the Shabda, bringing forth into expression the Sound and
Light of Divine Spirit. This is God-realization. Once we experience soul and God, and integrate that consciousness into
our entire being, we then need to bring God-into-Expression (a principle
Kirpal Singh sometimes called “Ekankar”) in this physical universe. This
is one of the prime reasons we choose to inhabit physical bodies and
deal with the hassles of matter, energy, space and time. It’s not just
penance, a school of hard knocks designed to smooth out our rough edges.
This is a beautiful planet, and a wonderful arena for blossoming souls
to creatively express divine love. Because the resistance is so great,
it makes the challenge and the rewards of achieving spiritual
awakening and balance that much greater. This principle was well stated by Jesus in The Lord’s Prayer: “Thy Kingdom come,
Thy Will be done on earth,
As It is in Heaven.” In other words, our purpose is to become living expressions of God
consciousness, and creative, loving coworkers with the Divine. This
means doing what we can as individuals to bring the Kingdom of Heaven
into expression in our physical awareness, to make It a living,
breathing reality for each of us on earth, here and now. Now some interpret this to mean attempting through social action,
chanting for world peace, intercessory prayer, etc. to bring about
global utopia. However, this misses the mark. For ours is also a world
of duality and conflict, inhabited by billions of souls at various
stages of development. To impose world peace or divinely mandated
enlightenment upon our brothers and sisters would deprive them of
experiences they need in order to blossom in their own time, at their
own pace. This is not to denigrate social or political action, for we each have a
responsibility to be active participants in our social family. But, when
it comes to expressing the Divine, it starts with each of us – in where
we place our attention, and how we interact, day-to-day, with those
around us, particularly in relationships. It starts with each of us
merging with the LightSong of Divine Love, becoming self-aware
instruments of that Love, allowing It to play Its eternal melody through
us and expressing It in our relationships with our fellow human beings,
each in our own unique, creative way. More on this to come. Yours in the LightSong Eternal, Michael Turner Yahoo Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SFS Google Group: Alt.Meditation.Shabda __._,_.___
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SPIRITUAL INTEGRATION AND EXPRESSION
© February 1994, 2010, by Michael Turner One of the things I have noticed in my search for spiritual freedom is
how often introspection is favored over expression. Many teachers of
spiritual unfoldment seem to stress place their primary attention upon
focusing within, rather than without. This is a traditional perspective,
at times stemming from the preconception that the outer world of the
senses is negative, and that it is only within that one will truly
experience the Kingdom of Heaven. What this perspective does not take into account, however, is that the
physical universe is no further from the Heart of God than any other
dimension. For the One Source of All That Is is beyond space, time and
duality “pervading all, without fear, without enmity” is how Guru
Nanak put it. The Supreme One, the Ocean of Love and Mercy, is
everywhere, here and now. We do not have to flee this universe to get
home there is nowhere to leave, and nowhere to go we are already
there. Fully realizing this is what Paul Twitchell referred to as
“Consciousness Five”. It is not even a question the Kingdom of Heaven being “within” or
“without.” It Just Is! As Soul a golden, self-aware particle of that
great conscious love we call “God” we are already spiritually free. We
are already forgiven. We just have to recognize this, accept it, and act
upon it. God does not want us to be a world of self-absorbed mystics any
more than It wants us to be a society of blind hedonists. It simply
wishes us to be active instruments for Its expression through the
LightSong of the Word the Divine Spiritual Current the Shabd. As stated above, many people on the spiritual quest both students and
teachers seem to feel that the attractions of the physical universe
are to be avoided if one wishes to achieve spiritual freedom. Indeed,
the whole language of spirituality and mysticism is replete with
invocations to abandon the flesh and its pleasures in pursuit of higher
consciousness. We have been told by some that this universe is the
“ashcan” of heaven and that, in order to travel in soul, we must leave
our bodies behind. This has led to a common myth that self-realization
is attained at the expense of the physical, astral, causal and mental
bodies. To me, the goal of spiritual unfoldment is not so much “transcendence”
or abandonment of the “lower” selves, as it is integration of the
various aspects of the self into alignment with the soul, and then
together serving as a harmonious instrument of Divine expression. A good analogy is that of a guitar. The physical, astral (emotional),
causal (memory/habitual), mental, etheric (subconscious/intuitive) and
soul bodies can each be compared to one of the guitar’s strings.
Individually, they each have their own resonant frequency. But no one
string is better than another. The fact that the high E string (i.e.
Soul) is two octaves above the bottom E (physical body) does not make it
intrinsically superior. And while one may appreciate the beauty of the
individual notes, it is a whole other experience entirely when they are
played together, harmoniously, as a chord. This, to me, is the essence of self-realization: using the Shabda as a
spiritual tuning fork to bring all of the bodies (or aspects of the
Self) into a harmonious tuning with the soul and each other. Once they
are in tune, they can then be played by the hand of God through the
LightSong of the Shabda, bringing forth into expression the Sound and
Light of Divine Spirit. This is God-realization. Once we experience soul and God, and integrate that consciousness into
our entire being, we then need to bring God-into-Expression (a principle
Kirpal Singh sometimes called “Ekankar”) in this physical universe. This
is one of the prime reasons we choose to inhabit physical bodies and
deal with the hassles of matter, energy, space and time. It’s not just
penance, a school of hard knocks designed to smooth out our rough edges.
This is a beautiful planet, and a wonderful arena for blossoming souls
to creatively express divine love. Because the resistance is so great,
it makes the challenge and the rewards of achieving spiritual
awakening and balance that much greater. This principle was well stated by Jesus in The Lord’s Prayer: “Thy Kingdom come,
Thy Will be done on earth,
As It is in Heaven.” In other words, our purpose is to become living expressions of God
consciousness, and creative, loving coworkers with the Divine. This
means doing what we can as individuals to bring the Kingdom of Heaven
into expression in our physical awareness, to make It a living,
breathing reality for each of us on earth, here and now. Now some interpret this to mean attempting through social action,
chanting for world peace, intercessory prayer, etc. to bring about
global utopia. However, this misses the mark. For ours is also a world
of duality and conflict, inhabited by billions of souls at various
stages of development. To impose world peace or divinely mandated
enlightenment upon our brothers and sisters would deprive them of
experiences they need in order to blossom in their own time, at their
own pace. This is not to denigrate social or political action, for we each have a
responsibility to be active participants in our social family. But, when
it comes to expressing the Divine, it starts with each of us – in where
we place our attention, and how we interact, day-to-day, with those
around us, particularly in relationships. It starts with each of us
merging with the LightSong of Divine Love, becoming self-aware
instruments of that Love, allowing It to play Its eternal melody through
us and expressing It in our relationships with our fellow human beings,
each in our own unique, creative way. More on this to come. Yours in the LightSong Eternal, Michael Turner Yahoo Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SFS Google Group: Alt.Meditation.Shabda __._,_.___
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Mon
1
Feb '10
For this month’s high-tech healing, I speak as I experiment. My belly is nice and warm from my glass of warm fresh mineral broth.
I used the simple recipe that comes from Richard Anderson’s “Clease and Heal Thyself Program”:
3 stalks of celery
skin of 3 potatoes
a few leaves of a green (collard green, kale, spinach, etc). Boil them, drink the hot mineral-rich juice (my it’s still warm and soothing 10 mins later!) and throw away the vegetable chunks: you’ve milked them for all their nutritional value. A lot of breatharians consume this broth when they get the urge to eat again. Mony Vitale is one of them. Web links: – Richard Anderson gives the mineral breakdown (Na, K, Ca): http://cleanse.net/mineralrichvegetablebroth.aspx
- Rebecca shows her more involved recipe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEFMtkZ9EFA
which has onions, carrots and kombu. Text of the recipe is here:
http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/member/views/ALKALIZING-VEGETABLE-MINERAL-BROTH-50056994
skin of 3 potatoes
a few leaves of a green (collard green, kale, spinach, etc). Boil them, drink the hot mineral-rich juice (my it’s still warm and soothing 10 mins later!) and throw away the vegetable chunks: you’ve milked them for all their nutritional value. A lot of breatharians consume this broth when they get the urge to eat again. Mony Vitale is one of them. Web links: – Richard Anderson gives the mineral breakdown (Na, K, Ca): http://cleanse.net/mineralrichvegetablebroth.aspx
- Rebecca shows her more involved recipe: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEFMtkZ9EFA
which has onions, carrots and kombu. Text of the recipe is here:
http://www.epicurious.com/recipes/member/views/ALKALIZING-VEGETABLE-MINERAL-BROTH-50056994
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